Fifty Two Weeks

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Re: Project 52

Postby davidc » Wed 07 Oct 2015, 02:20

Paul Heester wrote:Good luck in your new project David, Im sure you will come up with some amazing images. Re the slash and burn you could always look on the start of this project as a social documentation of the current situation. Lots of people wearing facemasks must create some unusual shots but thats from a western point of view. Maybe the locals - yourself included - have become used to it??


They wear them all the time. It looked funny to begin with but our Singaporean friends say that people who are ill and who need to leave the house (or who have sick kids yet aren't sick themselves) wear the masks out of politeness.

I did wonder about trying that too but it didn't translate too well in street photos. Thankfully it seems to be improving, we have blue sky today! And I have so many other projects requiring normal conditions :)
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Re: Project 52

Postby davidc » Wed 07 Oct 2015, 02:21

Mike Farley wrote:
davidc wrote:In Indonesia's case they are burning trees down to plant more - palm oil being one of their biggest exports.

So if the price of palm oil drops, they'll burn those trees too?


Presumably to grow whatever else is in demand :(

The haze has even reached Vietnam now so the pressure will be mounting.
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Re: Project 52

Postby Mike Farley » Wed 07 Oct 2015, 07:56

davidc wrote:The haze has even reached Vietnam now so the pressure will be mounting.

Hmm, if there is money involved and the Indonesians are intent on slash and burn, it is difficult to see how they can be stopped short of running out of forest.
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Re: Project 52

Postby davidc » Wed 07 Oct 2015, 09:29

I did laugh when outraged Singaporeans seriously wanted to know why the airforce were going to drop giant water balloons on them.

Indonesia is "fanning the flames" of international dispute though, saying the Singaporeans should shut up and be thankful for the 11 months of lovely oxygen their jungle has given them since last year :)
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Re: Fifty Two Weeks

Postby davidc » Sat 10 Oct 2015, 06:00

Week #2 - The Week of the Dragon!

Write-up of how I did it here - http://davidcandlish.photography/news/2 ... -project-2

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Re: Fifty Two Weeks

Postby Mike Farley » Sat 10 Oct 2015, 08:48

A spectacular image. When I opened this thread in my browser I only saw the top half and at first thought you had gone to Indonesia to shoot a slash and burn fire. :o

Having read your write up about how you created the shot, I agree that as presented this is the better of the two options. Having the fire breather at bottom right gives a strong diagonal and filling much of the frame with the flames has great impact. I wonder if you need slightly more space to the left, though? As it is, it feels just a bit too tight and it might add to the drama by giving the fire somewhere to expand into. I also wonder if the image suffers from the lower part of the flames not having a distinct edge?

I liked the other shot as well. The fire breather is nicely illuminated and we can see his tatoos, with the fireball being an ineresting and well defined shape, which demonstrates how the other shot could benefit. For me the main problem is that it is on the small side and leaves too much empty space. Unlike the other shot, there is no obvious connection between it and the performer, either. Maybe some manipulation might help it. I would be tempted to crop the man just below his tatoos, make him slightly smaller in the frame, increase the size of the flames and possibly rotate it very slightly so that it takes up a bit more width and creates more of a diagonal. Finally, I would add something to connect the two elements to make it obvious the man is breathing the fire. I am not sure if that would work, but some experimentation would be worthwhile as the shot does have a potential which is not quite realised as taken.

Thanks for sharing. You have set the standard for the remaining fifty weeks!
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Re: Fifty Two Weeks

Postby davidc » Sat 10 Oct 2015, 10:53

Thanks for the feedback - here's a quick and dirty version with changes you suggest.

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I think adding some space DOES help, though not sure about the bottom edge - for me it now makes the flame look a little cut-and-pasted.

I'm definitely going to work on and use the horse flame shot too, as you say the lighting and tattoos on the guy are too good to pass up. I think it will need a lot more work to get something out of though and ultimately I still suspect it won't be as strong as the above. Will share a follow on shot when I get round to it
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Re: Fifty Two Weeks

Postby davidc » Sat 10 Oct 2015, 11:22

I've had another pass at the "fire horse" photo too. Super-lo resolution and quality to fit on the forum, at normal resolution & quality levels it looks much better

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Re: Fifty Two Weeks

Postby Mike Farley » Sat 10 Oct 2015, 12:03

davidc wrote:Thanks for the feedback - here's a quick and dirty version with changes you

I think adding some space DOES help, though not sure about the bottom edge - for me it now makes the flame look a little cut-and-pasted.

Having the additional space adds dynamism since it gives the impression that the flame is expanding to occupy it. I understand what you mean about the lower edge looking too neat, but I think it could do with some tidying up. It might be worthwhile making some changes and then leaving it a couple of days to see what you think. Sometimes we can get too close to these things and need a bit of time for consideration when finessing.
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Re: Fifty Two Weeks

Postby Mike Farley » Sat 10 Oct 2015, 12:09

davidc wrote:I've had another pass at the "fire horse" photo too. Super-lo resolution and quality to fit on the forum, at normal resolution & quality levels it looks much better

I am not sure what changes you have made, but it is definitely looking better. Now that I am looking at it on my Mac Book display, I can see that there is more detail than I first observed. I think I would be tempted to bring out the fire eater a bit more, but I am sure that you are onto that. Part of me also wonders what it would like in mono, although I accept that could lose some of the drama in the flame. I look forward to seeing the final result.
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